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Photograph Album - Downs School for Young Ladies, Seaford 1910's still life by Ben Franks |
I will be sharing these photographs and some other images to include the names of the photographers and pictured students and staff. We can take a look at life at a school for young ladies who were a mixture of boarders and day students from wealthy families from all over the country.
We will also consider the lives of the school, live-in, servants shown in the 1911 census as a parlour maid, a kitchen maid and two house maids. One of the house maids, at 15 years of age, was younger than many of the students. Also among the non-teaching staff are the matron and housekeeper.
The camera group were invited to the Parade of the newly trained troops in front of Lord Kitchener in 1915. Two photographs of the occasion are included in the album. I had not previously seen an image recording the event.
Imagine the possibility that photographs of this event, including the closeup of Lord Kitchener in his car, as mentioned by Alba Windham in the school magazine have survived in family albums. It would be wonderful to see them and others of life at the school even after all this time!
What, if any, were the interactions between thousands of trainee soldiers and the girls and boys at the thirty or so private and state schools in and near to Seaford during and just before WW1.
Schools in Seaford Area during the period 1910 to 1920:
No | School Name | BoysGirls Coed | Year From | Year To | Location |
1 | Boys Primary Sch. (State) | Boys | 1859 | 1996 | National Sch.,71, Steyne Road |
2 | Girls Primary Sch. (State) | Girls | 1879 | 1990 | 43-45, Church Street |
3 | Queens Park Girls Sch. | Girls | 1903 | 1929 | 35, Claremont Road |
4 | Homeleigh Gentlemen’s Sch. | Boys | 1899 | 1933 | 2, Southdown Road |
5 | Pelham House Sch. | Girls | 1901 | 1932 | 68-70, Claremont Road |
6 | Chesterton School for Boys | Boys | 1911 | 1961 | Sussex House & Royal Naval College, Eastbourne Road |
7 | Annecy Convent Sch. | Girls | 1904 | 1978 | 9-11 Sutton Avenue and Beachcroft, Southdown Road. |
8 | Downs Ladies Sch. | Girls | 1901 | 1964 | (Redcroft 01-04) - Sutton Road |
9 | West Cliffe Sch. | Boys | 1905 | 1935 | Surrey Road |
10 | Lexden House Prep. Sch. | Boys | 1905 | 1924 | Firle Road |
11 | St. Peter’s Prep. Sch. | Boys | 1907 | 1982 | Alfriston Road |
12 | Seaford Ladies College | Girls | 1906 | 1953 | Eastbourne Road |
13 | Southlands House Ladies | Girls | 1911 | 1934 | Firle Road |
14 | St. Wilfrid's Boys Sch. | Boys | 1912 | 1973 | South Lodge, Sutton Avenue |
15 | Newlands Sch. | boys | 1908 | 2014 | Eastbourne Road |
16 | Ladycross Boys Prep. Sch. | Boys | 1909 | 1977 | Eastbourne Road |
17 | Bowden House Boys Sch. | Boys | 1910 | 1938 | Firle Road |
18 | Ravens Croft / Micklefield Sch. | Girls | 1909 | 1994 | Sutton Avenue |
19 | Stoke House Boys Prep. Sch. | Boys | 1912 | 1965 | Manor Road |
20 | St. David’s / Hamilton House | Boys | 1912 | 1919 | Rougemont, Belgrave Road |
21 | Tyttenhanger Lodge Prep. Sch. | Boys | 1914 | 1963 | Sutton Avenue |
22 | Kings Mead Prep. Sch. | Boys | 1914 | 1968 | Belgrave Road |
23 | Southdown Prep. Sch. | Boys | 1914 | 1950 | Firle Road |
24 | Southlands Ladies Sch. | Girls | 1914 | 1934 | Firle Road |
25 | Gateways Sch. | Coed | 1916 | 1948 | St. John’s Hall, Wilmington Road |
26 | Gladleigh / Westdown Road | Coed | 1911 | 1933 | 15, Westdown Road |
27 | Infants Primary Sch. (State) | Coed | 1889 | 1990 | 47-49, Church Street |
28 | Seaford College | Boys | 1884 | 1942 | Corsica Hall, College Road |
29 | St. Mawes Sch. | Boys | 1895 | 1917 | 15, Belgrave Road |
30 | Blatchington Place Sch. | Boys | 1895 | 1921 | 10, Homefield Road |
31 | Merton House Sch. | Boys | 1910 | 1913 | Hartfield Road |
32 | Bishopstone National Sch. (state) | Coed | 1849 | 1940+ | Bishopstone |
Schools extract (1910 - 1920) taken from comprehensive list kindly provided by Charlie Grimble.
This Blog is WORK IN PROGRESS and I will be adding to it over the next weeks and months.
Let me introduce you to the Girls and the staff:
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Downs School Photograph - 1915 by courtesy of Ben Franks |
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School Photo - Closeup |
Comparison between 1911 Census and School List
Downs School for Young Ladies, Seaford
Key: A = Age, Rs = Relationship, MS = Marital Status, Occ = Occupation, H = Head, B = Boarder, Sv = Servant, S = Single, Sg = Schoolgirl, HM = Headmistress, Hk = Housekeeper, Mt = Matron, Pm = Parlour Maid, Km = Kitchen Maid, Hm = House Maid, PM = Physical Culture Mistress, * = On census/not on school list
No. | Name on Census | A | Rs | MS | Occ | Home Address / Birthplace |
1 | Robinson, Lucy | 43 | H | S | HM | B. Preston Lancs |
2 | Young, Amy Mary | 41 | B | S | EM | B. London S.E. |
3 | Bagot-Corbett, Evelyn | 36 | B | S | Mt | B. Oswestry Salop |
4 | Hawkins, Honoria | 32 | B | S | Hk | B. Eaton Bishop Herts |
5 | Hurry, Maria E. | 22 | B | S | PM | B. Florida USA (Nat'lty - English) |
6 | Wood, Lucy M. | 18 | B | S | Sg | Southport, Grove House |
7 | Toller, Pauline | 17 | B | S | Sg | Kettering, The Crossways |
8 | Sayer, Sibella Margaret | 17 | B | S | Sg | Charing Kent, Clear Mount |
9 | Kessler, Nora Jean (Jean) | 17 | B | S | Sg | Fallowfield Manchester, Fernlea |
10 | Gray, Agneta A. | 17 | B | S | Sg | Stamford Lincs, St Mary’s Hill |
11 | Roberts, Agnes Hallam | 16 | B | S | Sg | Cobham Surrey, Flexland's |
12 | Lloyd Ainslie, Muriel (See 36 - Amy Muriel Spink)* | 16 | B | S | Sg |
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13 | Mackintosh, Cecilia B. | 15 | B | S | Sg | Stockport Whaleybridge, Kinrara |
14 | Paterson, Doris M. | 15 | B | S | Sg | Southampton,12 Brunswick Pl, |
15 | Pemberton, Clarissa H. | 15 | B | S | Sg | Banbury Oxon, Linden Hse |
16 | Drake-Brockman, Constance | 16 | B | S | Sg | Darnley Rd Gravesend, Cheriton |
17 | Webb, Marjory C. | 16 | B | S | Sg | S. Hampstead, King Henry's Rd. |
18 | John, Doris M. | 16 | B | S | Sg | Upton Hants, Ivyholme |
19 | Tayler, Winifred (Frances)* | 16 | B | S | Sg | Stanton St Bernard Pewsey, Wilts. |
20 | Cooke, Doris P.V. | 16 | B | S | Sg | 3 Portland Court W. |
21 | Clare, Phyllis | 16 | B | S | Sg | E. Twickenham, Meadowside |
22 | Bramall, Nancy M. | 15 | B | S | Sg | Highbury New Pk Ldn, Fairlawn |
23 | Tayler, Margaret | 14 | B |
| Sg | Stanton St Bernard Pewsey, Wilts. |
24 | Cook, Daphne | 13 | B |
| Sg | 3 Portland Court W. |
25 | Spooner, Mary | 12 | B |
| Sg | S. Norwood S.E., Dalswinton |
26 | Bennett, Eileen A. | 12 | B |
| Sg | Elham S.O. Norfolk, Gately Hse |
27 | Tayler, Betty D. | 11 | B |
| Sg | Stanton St Bernard Pewsey, Wilts |
28 | Debley, Alice S. | 18 | Sv | S | Pm | B. St. Leonard’s on Sea |
29 | Howith, Alice M. | 20 | Sv | S | Km | B. Brighton |
30 | Knight, Annie M. | 17 | Sv | S | Hm | B. London |
31 | Mace, Ardola K. | 15 | Sv | S | Hm | B. Plaistow, Essex |
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32 | Holmes, Ethel |
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| Sg | Southwold S’folk, Sunset House |
33 | Child Sylvia |
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| Sg | Cobham Surrey, The Crossways |
34 | Dutton, Barbara |
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| Sg | New Ferry Chshre, Thorburn Rd. |
35 | Lockwood, Madeline |
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| Sg | Farnham Bucks, The Old House |
36 | Spink, Muriel (See 12.) |
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| Sg | E. Twickenham, Willoughby Hse |
37 | Anson, Gertrude |
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| Sg | Keswick Cumbria, Bristowe Hill |
38 | Brooks, Erica |
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| Sg | St. Alban’s Herts, Cedarhurst |
39 | Salter, Hilary |
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| Sg | Walton on Thames Sy, Rye House |
40 | Meggison, Dorothy |
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| Sg | Seaford Sx, Crypt House |
41 | Morgan, Eileen |
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| Sg | Seaford Sx, Rostrevor |
42 | Conradi, Catherine |
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| Sg | Seaford Sx, Heathfield Rd. |
43 | Bowyer, Edith |
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| Sg | Seaford Sx, Tower House |
44 | Stack, Violet |
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| Sg | Seaford Sx, The Star House |
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Note: 12 and 36 we believe are the same girl (based on contact from relative)
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Downs School (Front) |
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Downs School (Rear) |
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Downs School - Page 1. - 1913 |
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Betty and Chris Tayler, Gardening -1913 by E.H. by courtesy of Ben Franks |
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Letty, Gwenedd, Edith, Aileen, Monica & Mary - 1913 by H.L. |
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Violet & Monica - 1913 by H.L. |
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Magaret [Margaret] -1913 by H.L. |
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Letty, Miss Hurry, Helen Doris, Eileen, Betty, Gwenedd - 1913 by H.L. |
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Edith, Betty & Gwenedd on the front field - 1913 by E.H. |
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Minnie & Eileen on the back field - 1913 by E.H. |
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Peggy, Eileen & Marjorie with Rodney on front field - 1913 by E.H. |
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Match between Roedean and The Downs - 1913 by E.H.? |
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The 1st XI in front of school - 1913 by E.R. Standing: Margaret, Violet, Ernestine, Letty, Miriam, Elmore Sitting: Betty, Betty, Mary, Monica, Edith, Gwenedd |
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L IV form on front field - 1913 by E.B. Standing: Betty, Thalia, Adela, Audrey Sitting: Maisie, Betty (Dinah in bed with cold!) |
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Front field - Some of the girls waiting to begin a game - 1913 by E.H. |
LENT TERM - 1914:
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Betty, Margaret In chair - Elmore 1914 by M.R. |
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Back; Monica and Margaret Front: Edith, Mary, Elmore, Margaret -1914 by M.R. |
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Joyce B. Dutton - March 29th, 1914 |
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Edith Rooth Outside Hall - 1914 by H.K. |
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Match between "Downs" and "Chesterton" (here) - 1914 by H.K. |
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Hockey IV with Miss Hobbs - 1914 |
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Match between "St. Peters" & "Downs" (here) - 1914 by M.R. |
SCHOOL LIST, EASTER TERM, 1915.
Downs School for Young Ladies
Key: Entry Term: L = Lent Term, Easter [Summer], Michaelmas + Years 1908/11/12/13/14/15
RefNo | Name | Form | Entry Term | Home Address |
1 | Margaret Tayler | VI | L 11 | Stanton St. Bernard, Pewsey, Wilts. |
2 | Edith Rooth | Up Va. | L 13 | 641 Park Str. Arcadia, Pretoria, Transvaal, S.A. |
3 | Mary Riley |
| M 12 | West Lodge, Kew Gardens, Surrey. |
4 | Hilary Kellock |
| L 14 | Stowe Lodge, Watford, Herts. |
5 | A Vickers |
| M 13 | c/o Miss Cameron, The Downs School, Seaford |
6 | Elizabeth Knight |
| M 13 | 7 Gainsborough Gardens, Hampstead Heath. |
7 | Eileen Bennett | Up Vb | M 08 | The White House, Swanton, Morley, Dereham, Norfolk. |
8 | Alba Windham |
| L 14 | c/o Bank of Montreal, 9 Waterloo Place, Pall Mall. |
9 | D. Vickers |
| M 13 | c/o Miss Cameron, The Downs School, Seaford. |
10 | Violet Stack (Letty) |
| M 08 | The Star House, Seaford, Sussex. |
11 | Gwynedd Roberts |
| M 12 | Flexlands, Chobham, near Woking, Surrey. |
12 | Joy Godfrey-Faussett |
| E 14 | Heftesbury, Wiltshire. |
13 | Helen Liddell |
| M 12 | 51 Thurleigh Road, Balham, S.W. |
14 | Molly McAlpin |
| M 14 | Ardgour, Woodland Avenue, Leicester. |
15 | Margaret McAfee |
| E 15 | St. George Street, Portman Square, W. |
16 | Adela Lawford | L.V. | L 13 | Seton Lodge, Seaford, Sussex. |
17 | Elizabeth Howard |
| M 13 | The White House, Heath End, Farnham, Surrey |
18 | Dinah Synge |
| M 13 | Kelton, Seaford, Sussex. |
19 | T. Koskina |
| E 13 | 24 Pembridge Gardens, W. |
20 | N. Chard |
| E 15 | The Cottage, Crawley, Sussex. |
21 | Betty Tayler | Up. IV. | L 11 | Stanton St. Bernard, Pewsey, Wilts. |
22 | Audrey Lambe |
| E 12 | Upper Lodge, Seaford, Sussex. |
23 | Maisie Gervis |
| M 13 | Hurdis House, Seaford, Sussex. |
24 | Betty Hazell |
| E 14 | 43 Gloucester Road, Regent’s Park, W. |
25 | Betty Southam |
| L 15 | Ryde House, Richmond Ridge, Twickenham. |
26 | A Koskina |
| E 13 | 24 Pembridge Gardens, W. |
27 | Ruby Bradshaw |
| M 14 | Ballydevitt House, Aghadowey, Co. Derry. |
28 | Winnifred Synge | L. IV. | M 13 | Kelton, Seaford, Sussex. |
29 | M. Ponsonby |
| E 12 | 1 Stafford House, Maida Vale, London. |
30 | Monica Stack |
| L 12 | The Star House, Seaford, Sussex. |
31 | K. Edmonds |
| L 15 | 25 Grove Park Gardens, Chiswick. |
32 | L. Livingstone | III. | M14 | Hardwicke House, Seaford, Sussex. |
33 | Chris Tayler |
| M 12 | Stanton St. Bernard, Pewsey Wilts. |
34 | J. Morgan |
| E 14 | Kedale Road. Seaford, Sussex |
35 | Elizabeth (Betty) Jack |
| L 14 | The Moorings, Seaford, Sussex. |
36 | Margo Knapp | II. | M 14 | Greenfield, Seaford, Sussex. |
37 | Barbara Barton |
| E 14 | Wayside, Seaford. Sussex. |
38 | Barbara Hurst |
| L 15 | Mill Dene, Seaford, Sussex. |
38 | Joan McAfee |
| E 15 | 29 George Street, Portman Sq, W. |
40 | Margaret Synge |
| E 14 | Kelton, Seaford, Sussex. |
41 | Laura Gervis |
| M 14 | Hurdis House, Seaford, Sussex. |
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Elmore, Margaret & Mary on garden seat - by M.R. |
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St. Peters & Downs (here) |
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Myself and Kitten |
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V Form - Standing: Joy, Miss Hobbs, Alba, Betty Sitting: Helen, Eileen, Letty, Doris, Gwennedd |
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Sports - Margaret jumping |
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Elmore jumping |
Summer Term - 1914:
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The photographer was from 'Elliott & Fry', Baker Street, London, W. |
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Mary, Margaret, Elmore, Hilary, Margaret & Alba |
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Margaret, Mary & Joyce off for a ride - by R.H. |
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Elmore, Margaret, Mary with bottle - by M.R. |
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Betty, Gwenedd, Edith, Letty, Joy, Margaret & Hilary (after games) |
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Alba having turned round at the critical moment |
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LEWES -At tea - Helen, Margaret, Elmore, Alba & Miss Huggard |
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LEWES - At tea - Elmore, Margaret, Edith, Hilary, Miss Huggard & Mary |
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LEWES - Edith Rooth, Alba, Edith falling |
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LEWES - Margaret, Elmore, Mary |
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AT LEWES PRIORY - From Back: Helen, Edith Rooth, Hilary, Edith B. Mary, alba, Elmore, Margaret, Miss Huggard |
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AT LEWES PRIORY - Alba, Hilary, Edith R., Edith B., Helen, on the ruins |
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SPORTS - Obstacle Race |
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Alba sitting on groyne at Seaford Beach |
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Group at lunch at Chanctonbury Ring |
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Miss Cameron at Lunch (Chanctonbury Ring) |
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Miss Cameron in Motor |
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TENNIS - Ravenscroft V's Downs |
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Tennis Team - Lettie, Margaret & Elmore Betty & Gwenedd |
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Tennis - Ravenscroft v's Downs - Edith and Betty (myself) |
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Lacrosse X1 - Gwenned, Alba, Letty, Margaret B., Betty J., Mary, Margaret J, Aileen, Edith, Betty H. Molly McAlpin |
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The gardens - Downs School |
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Cricket Team - Letty, Alba, Ernestine, Margaret T., Elmore, Adela Mary Minnie Gwenedd, Betty T. Betty Leaf |
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Summer Term 1914 - Letty, Margaret T., Elmore myself Gwenedd |
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Lent Term 1915 - Myself, Alba, Miss Hobbs, Letty, Margaret T., Elmore, Maisie, Minnie, Molly Gwenedd |
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Summer Term 1915 - Expedition - Tea |
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Summer Term 1915 - Expedition - The Drivers |
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Summer Term 1915 - Expedition - Margaret, Mary, Myself, Miss Humphreys, & Alba |
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Summer Term 1915 - Expedition - Miss Laughley, Miss Cameron & Miss Hobbs |
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Birthday Party - Betty S., Betty H., Betty H., Betty T |
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Birthday Party - Mary, Betty H., Betty H,. Betty S., Miss Cameron |
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Birthday Party - Betty T., Betty H., Betty H., Betty S., Miss Cameron |
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Old Girls - Monica & Margaret S. |
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Mary and Edith after batheing |
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The Bathers |
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Betty, Edith, Mary, Alba, Margaret T. |
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II Form - Margaret, Barbara, Joan, Lorna (or Laura) Peggy Barbara H. |
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Betty S. and Nipper (Nipper the Airedale Terrier was donated by one of the maids in 1915) |
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Boarders' Room - Mauve Room M.T. (Margaret Tayler?) (check out mirror in background) |
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Closeup of Mirror in Mauve Room appears to show photographer and her camera (plus one other) |
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Sports - Aileen, Margaret & Gewnedd |
The above photograph shows two girls on the outside of concentric circles marked on the grass. They appear to be using cricket stumps or similar to 'push' balls from the inner circle into the centre of the circle where there may be a target. It would be interesting to to know if this is a known 'sport' or if it is some activity that has been created at the school. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Cricket Team - Adela, Letty, Margaret T., Gwenedd, Alba Mary, Maisie, Betty T., Margaret me? Mollie Minnie |
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Loose photo - Unknown location (Lewes Priory ?) |
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Loose photo - Unofficial School Photo - Unknown date |
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Loose photo - Closeup of school photo - unknown date |
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Loose photo - Unidentified teacher ? - Downs School Tennis Court |
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Loose photo - Watching a match at the Downs School (probably Cricket) |
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"Kitchener in Seaford" - "Troops marching by" Lord Kitchener's Review of Ulster division - Seaford 20th July, 1915 - left: Downs School hat! photographer from Downs School / copyright Ben Franks |
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"Kitchener in Seaford" - "Kitchener & Staff riding by" Lord Kitchener's Review of Ulster Division - Seaford 20th July 1915 photographer from Downs School / copyright - Ben Franks |
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Examples of the types of cameras used by the 'Camera Fiends' |
From the Downs School Magazine:
The deaths of husbands and brothers of Students and Old Girls are recorded each year.
Four deaths are recorded in the 1915 magazine.:-
The Childs’ brother on the Western Front.
Jean Kessler’s brother in the Dardanelles.
D. Ashby’s youngest brother went out as a motor despatch rider at the beginning of the war and has been missing since September.
D. Keenlyside (Horsfall)’s brother serving in the Munster Fusiliers was reported wounded and missing in May.
C. Johnson’s husband and four brothers are all fighting as is E. Viney (Merriam’s) husband. B. Blaikie (Webb)’s husband was wounded in the charge of the London Scottish an invalided home. One of the Lockwood’s brothers took part in the defence of Antwerp and is now interned in Holland. A. Robert’s brother is on H.M.S. Waveney. D. Morgan’s eldest brother is a doctor in a French base hospital and her younger brother was awarded a Military Cross after fighting for months on the Western Front.
Many other brothers have gone out- the Richards, Clares, Fields, Lennards, Tollers, Mills, Dibbens, Duttons, Woods, Patersons and Brammals.
A further seven were reported killed in the 1916 magazine:-
Julian Richards, 2nd Royal Sussex 25/9/15 - leading the machine gunners.
Christopher Moor, McGill University Canada at Gallipoli - just as he and his captain, the only two, reached the enemy trenches.
Charles Gray of the Lincolns - leading his men toward German trenches at the Hohenzollern Redoubt.
Samuel Lennard – on the Western Front.
Percy Hawkins – on the Western Front.
Northcote Toller, Royal Fusiliers in July 1916 – in the great advance.
At the very beginning of the war Eileen Maxwell (Gordon) was widowed and left with her little daughter Joan.
Edward Wood Lennard who fell at Passchendaele “last surviving brother" of Eveline and Kathleen Lennard.
The 1917 magazine reports the death of Gerald Mills, Major and general Commander of the R.F.C., who was killed on his fourth day out at the Front aged 26.
Two more were reported in the 1919 magazine.
Captain (Acting Major) Gordon Dutton M.C. 5/4/1918 at Beauvois, of wounds.
Major William Martin Butler R.E. 5/3/1919 of septic pneumonia at 57 C.C.S. France.
Colonel Synge father of Dinah, Winifred and Peggy died on the 11th of July,1920, from an illness resulting from the War.
Many more family members will have been wounded, some seriously, who would die young or endure long term ill health.
The girls sent out fortnightly parcels of food to a Prisoner of War in Germany.
There is an interesting account in the magazine by 'old girl' Pauline Toller who is returning home in early June 1916 from Sweden. She crosses the North Sea, her journey taking four and a half days, landing at Newcastle after a very unpleasant crossing to the news that Lord Kitchener had been drowned. She had read of the Battle of Jutland in a Norwegian paper immediately prior to her voyage commenting "terrific English losses! Germany celebrating and feasting! schools closed." She says "We are thankful to be leaving Sweden; thankful to say goodbye to a pro German country, and still more thankful to have finished our training in Stockholm."
Many of the Old Girls and teachers worked as V.A.D. nurses, dispensing medicines for a Red Cross military hospital, on munitions work, in Y.M.C.A. Huts, or taking the place of men teachers, bank staff etc. who have gone to fight, One was running a recruiting office and another was an officer in the Women’s Auxiliary Army Corps. Another joined a peat stacking camp at Whixall where there were about a hundred students working under military discipline.
On ARMISTICE DAY (11th of the 11th of 1918) this report was provided by V.B.B. [V. Bacon?]:
We got the great news at break, and work was stopped at once while the whole school streamed out onto the front field and there gave vent to the exuberance of their feelings until lunch time. Just before lunch Miss Moffatt and a few energetic spirits who had rushed off to the town to get flags, came back laden with spoils which were quickly hung up outside the school giving the house the proper festive appearance. Miss Cameron gave an enormous Union Jack which was hung triumphantly from one of the windows and looked most imposing.
In the afternoon Miss Cameron entertained the School to tea in the playroom at Bydown, which was decorated with flags and evergreens for the occasion. We drank the King’s health, and the healths of the Army and Navy and Air Service amid loud cheering. After tea the whole School went to the Thanksgiving Service held in the Parish Church. Everybody felt that this and the never-to-be-forgotten School Service which was held at the School after supper, and at which we sang “Land of Hope and Glory” with more fervour than we had ever sung it before, was a fitting ending to the most wonderful day the School, and surely the whole world had ever known.
It was impossible to do adequate honour to such an event in one day, so Miss Cameron kindly gave us another holiday on November the 12th, which we celebrated by a house-match in the morning and a fancy-dress dance in the evening. The match was the School House v. Maitland and Bydown and ended in a victory for the School.
The afternoon was spent in preparing for the evening’s dance, which took place at 7.30, after we had enjoyed a most sumptuous supper which Miss Cameron had provided for us in the hall, which had been beautifully decorated in the afternoon by the prefects.
Surely nobody who was at School when the Armistice was signed will ever forget one moment of those two wonderful days. Though few of us perhaps realised fully at the time what had really happened, even the youngest of us felt that something oppressive had been removed from the air, for the first time for four and a half years peace descended upon the whole world again.
We prayed for peace; no deadly strife to-day
‘Twixt winged foes can darken God’s clear air,
We seem to hear the beating wings
THE DEBATING SOCIETY
A debate was held on the 11th of December 1909 the subject of the motion being "Fox was right in his admiration for the French Revolution; Burke wrong in his hatred of it" (motion lost by one vote)
After the debate it was decided that a Debating Society be formed. It would be for Teachers and students of Upper Fourth and upwards with two debates being held each term.
The first four debates were held on the 19th of March 1910. but did not produce a high level of debate but later subjects reflect the times in which they were proposed and give insights into the attitudes of societies’ elite as changing times impact their lives forever:
1910 "War is never justifiable." (motion lost by 21 votes)
1910 "That a savage is happier than a civilised man." (lost by 7 votes)
1911 "Freedom of the press is good for the nation." (Ayes 18, Noes 12)
1911 "The censorship of women's fashion is desirable." (lost by 21 votes)
1912 "Nationalisation of the coal mines is the only way to maintain peace in the nation." (won 5 votes)
1912 "Aeroplanes ought not be used for the purpose of war." (wan by 2 votes)
1912 "East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet."
1913 "All the supporters of the Society for Prevention of Cruelty for Animals should be vegetarians." (motion lost unanimously)
1913 "It is necessary for British Rule in India that the subject native races should be treated as inferiors." (motion Lost 10 to 15 votes "in a very spirited debate")
1914 "It is better for women to ride astride than to use a side saddle."
1914 "The substitution of oil for coal in the Royal Navy would be a welcome change."
1914 "A man of action has done more for the world than the man of ideas." (won by 7 votes)
1914 "Moral courage is to be more admired than physical courage." (won by 7 votes)
1914 "Aeroplanes will be more useful than motor cars. (lost by 8 votes)
1914 The life of a soldier is preferable to the life of a sailor." (won by 3 votes)
1914 "A secluded life is better than a public one." (lost by 13 votes)
1914 (October 10th) "That lack of energy shows weakness of will." (lost by 11 votes)
1914 "That conscription would be a better thing for England than voluntary service" (lost by 19)
1914 "That Indian Troops should not take part in European Warfare." (lost by majority of 20)
1914 "That Cinematographs have done more to detract from than to add to the culture of the world." (Motion lost by a single vote)
1915 to 1917 - The subjects for debate between these years appeared to have been less controversial, by todays’ standards, and the motions did not look at national or world issues as they had done previously.
1918 "That after the war the air Service is likely to take the place of other means of transit.” (carried by 10 votes)
1919 “That domestic service under present conditions is impossible.” (lost by a majority of 36)
1922 “That the coloured races of the British Empire should have equal rights with the British citizen” (motion was lost by 14 votes) - The irony here is that the British West Indian Regiment was ‘formed’ in Seaford in 1915. Many of the soldiers, who died, mainly of illnesses, are buried in the military area of Seaford cemetery and are remembered each year by local people.
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Artist: Eileen Bennett (the only girl with these initials) |
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By Eileen Bennett |
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Created by Eileen Bennett |
Expeditions mainly took place on Saturdays. These included local walking and cycling trips out and longer ones by horse drawn wagonette or motor char-a-banc rides. All would have involved picnics and stops for refreshments at tea rooms etc.
1911 - PEVENSEY
1911 – FIRLE BEACON (Coronation night - June 22nd, 1911, King George V and Mary)
1911 – 24th of June - LEWES
1912 – BEACHY HEAD, EASTBOURNE (Sat 9th of March)
1912 – The Down above WILMINGTON (16th of March)
1912 – 12th of June – PEVENSEY – WANNOCK GLEN – on the 5th of October. A bicycle tour starting at noon via Exeat, Friston and Jevington and on to Wannock. After a walk through the Glen had refreshments at Wannock Tea Gardens and then home via Polegate and Wilmington arriving at dusk.
1912 – Cortlandt, a house in HAILSHAM on the 12th of October by bicycle via Exeat, Litlington passing Alfriston. Lunch outside Wilmington then through Abbott’s Wood via Hyde to Hailsham. After Tea returned home via Polegate and Lullington.
1913 (21st of June) - starting at 9.30 on a DRIVE THROUGH LITTLE SUSSEX VILLAGES in two brakes and a waggonette “to the accompaniment of the Blue Room Horn.”. Went on the Newhaven Road, past the round towers of Piddinghoe and Southease churches. To Iford and on to Swanborough Manor where the owner showed them inside the house. Some stayed and sketched the house while others walked to Kingston Village. The group, back together again, then drove to Firle to have Tea in the garden of the Ram Inn They drove home halting at Selmeston, watched an exciting cricket match and then on home via Alfriston and Litlington arriving at 8.45.
A brake was a four wheeled large, closed, carriage drawn by two or four horses. A waggonette was a four wheeled horse drawn open pleasure vehicle with side and cross seats as shown in photograph in album.
1913 “Saturday Expeditions” :-
4tth of October - just five walked with Miss Huggard to Birling Gap through Exceat, Friston and East Dean and back home in the evening via the Seven Sisters and Crowlink.
5th of November – Miss Cameron and her form started at 2.30 walked via the Cradle Valley to Alfriston in time for tea in a room at the Star Inn. On the way home they went through Charleston Bottom, West Dean and Exceat by moonlight.
A second party on the same day went with Miss Huggard went over the downs to Denton via Blatchington then up the Shepherds’ Steps and followed the ridge of the downs for some time to the top where they had a Picnic Tea. They retuned over the downs via Seaford.
1914 (June the 29th) the Annual School Expedition was to CHANCTONBURY RING, a very thick circular clump of beech trees, close to Worthing. They left at 9 o’clock in two Tourist Coaches through Kempdown and Brighton. There are photographs in the album of the group having lunch in the shade of the trees. After exploring Chanctonbury Ring, where there are wonderful views of Sussex, they walked to Steyning where the brakes met them and took them on to Bramber. There they had an excellent tea at Yew Tree Tea Gardens. They drove home via Brighton arriving home at 7 o’clock.
1915 (July 12th) - to WILMINGTON with Miss Cameron to see The Long Man. Only one brake could be obtained so those with bicycles rode them and a few walked. Had lunch at the foot of the Downs. The Long Man’s form is cut in the grass of the chalk hill and was then lined with tiles to preserve it, Most then climbed to the top of the Downs where they could see the Cuckmere and Newhaven in one direction over the Sussex Weald in the other. They then visited the church and ruins of the old manor house in the garden of the neighbouring farm. After tea in a little lane in the village they returned home with the walkers, cyclists and drivers all arriving within a few minutes of each other.
No more expeditions are mentioned until half term 1918.
Lectures given by outside speakers, parents, teachers and sometimes even by students were a common feature of life at the school.
The subjects were very varied and more-often-than-not illustrated by Lantern Slides as follows:
22/10/10 - THE GREEK GAMES – by Miss Radford
“Previous Monday” - DOWNS DITTIES – Mr. Richardson
7/10/11 - LIFE IN PALESTINE” - Mrs. Schor (parent) who wore dress of peasant in Bethlehem
14/10/11 - THE HISTORY OF DELHI – Miss Perkins
4/11/11 - THE POSITION TURKEY HOLDS IN EUROPEAN AFFAIRS – Miss Green
29/11/11 - BEAUTIFUL SONGS AND THEIR WRITERS – at Symonds Institute, Seaford
12/4/11 - THE INSURANCE BILL – Mr. Bramall (parent)
27/1/12 - LIFE IN PALESTINE – Mrs. Schor who wore Jewish costume (Also sang “There is a Green Hill”)
9/3/12 - VISIT TO THE DELHI DURBAR – C. Rutherford (first lecture by student)
8/5/12 - PALESTINE – Mr. Schor (parent)
18/5/12 - PUBLIC AND SOCIAL WORK – Miss Phillips about Citizenship and Social Responsibilities
“End of Summer Term” - WOMEN STUDENTS AT BRISTOL UNIVERSITY – Miss Stavely
26/10/1913 - THE HISTORY OF SEAFORD – Miss Robinson
16/11/13 - THE EASTERN QUESTION (The Balkan Peninsular) - Miss Green
25/1/13 - CANADA – Miss Packer
11/2/13 - WORK IN THE GREAT TOWNS (Widnes soap, St. Helens glass, Sheffield cutlery) - Mr. Proctor (Church Pastoral Aid Society)
7/3/13 - JANE AUSTEN AND HER NOVELS – Mr. Helm
17/5/13 - OLD LONDON (highlights of London Life) - Mr. Blake
16/12/13 - THE MISSION SERVICE- Bishop of Southwark
6/3/13 - THE NEW WORK IN CANADA- Bishop of Willesden
7/6/13 - WORK IN THE MISSION DISTRICT (South London) - Miss Cholmondeley
16/10/13 - COAL MINING AND COTTON MANUFACTURE – Mr. Proctor
11/1013 - WOMENS EDUCATION IN THE EAST – Miss Shaun
15/11/13 - THE STATE OF AFFAIRS IN THE BALKAN PENINSULAR – Miss Green
8/11/13 - THE ART OF BUILDING AND DECORATING IN FIFTH CENTURY GREECE – Miss Evelyn Radford
2/12/13 - JEWISH CUSTOMS AND MANNERS – Rev. S Schor
26/2/14 - WOMEN’S SUFFRAGE, A NATIONAL QUESTION – Mrs. Rackham
20/3/15 - THE FAILURE OF GERMAN STRATEGY – Mr. Ernest Vaughan
28/6/15 - MISS BUTLER’S SCHOOL IN BANGALORE – Miss Butler
25/11/16 - THE RAILWAYS OF YORK, DONCASTER, STRATFORD AND MANCHESTER – Mr. Porterfield
6/6/17 - SHAKESPEARE and how to read his plays - Mr. Poel (founder of The Elizabethan Stage Society)
12/6/17 - THE CO-OPERATIVE MOVEMENT – Miss Sheepshanks
26/3/18 - THE POTTERY INDUSTRY IN THE MIDLANDS – Mr. Porterfield
xx/xx/18 - JULIUS CAESAR – Mr. Poel
4/11/18 - WESTMINSTER ABBEY – Mr. Pears
21/11/18 - THE ZENANA MISSION – Miss Laurence
12/3/19 - CHURCH PASTORAL AID SOCIETY – Mr. Porterfield
7/11/19 - NEW SUSSEX HOSPITAL FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN – Miss Green
Lent Term 1920 – ITALIAN ART – Miss Cazalet
Lent 1920 – C.P.A.S. IN THE LANCASHIRE COTTON TOWNS – Mr. Porterfield
Summer Term 1920 – THE RELIGIOUS TRACT SOCIETY – lecturer not named
24/6/20 - INVALID CHILDREN – Miss Gray
Michaelmas Term 1920 – CHURCH ZENANA MISSIONARY SOCIETY IN INDIA – Miss Lawrence
DOWNS SCHOOL LIST – From 1912 to 1915 (combined)
Key: Terms 1. Lent 2. Easter or Summer 3. Michaelmas
Ref No. | Name | Year/ Term Joined | Year/Term Left | What they did on leaving school |
1 | Dutton Barbara | 10 2 | 13 2 | To 3 yrs at Liverpool Sch of Domestic Economy |
2 | Mackintosh Cecilia B. | 05 3 | 13 2 | To Honours Course in History – Manchester Uni |
3 | Paterson Doris M.. | 04 3 | 13 2 | To Paris then Germany - now Games Mistress at Warden Court School |
4 | Pemberton Clarissa H. | 07 3 | 13 2 |
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5 | Walch E. | 12 3 | 13 2 | To continue art studies towards profession |
6 | Downs Eileen Rose | 11 3 | 14 2 | War work at Hull Bank then Edinburgh College of Art |
7 | Gray E. | 12 2 | 13 2 |
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8 | Broadbent C. | 13 2 | 14 2 |
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9 | Brooke M. | 12 3 | 13 2 | To study botany and to do farming near her home |
10 | Greenwood V. | 13 1 | 13 3 |
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11 | Strickland M. | 11 3 | 14 1 | Training to become Motor Ambulance Driver |
12 | Tayler Margaret | 11 1 | 15 2 | Studying at College of Pharmacy – and dispensing at military hospital Winchester |
13 | Plumer A. | 12 3 | 13 2 |
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14 | Rooth Edith | 13 1 | 15 3 |
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15 | Schor Miriam | 11 3 | 14 1 |
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16 | Stace Margaret | 12 2 | 14 2 | Training as a Norland Nurse |
17 | Bowyer Edith | 08 3 | 14 2 | War - Red Cross Hospital Beckingham |
18 | Harvey-Jones E. | 13 2 | 15 1 | Madame Vandyck. School of Dancing |
19 | Lawford E. | 13 1 | 14 2 |
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20 | Riley Mary | 12 3 | 16 2 | Working as a V.A.D. Nurse |
21 | Bennett Eileen | 08 3 | 15 2 | Training as Secretary at a Womens Employment Bureau |
22 | Conradi Catherine | 10 3 | 13 2 | To make home with her family in U.S. |
23 | Stack V. (Letty) | 08 3 | 17 2 | Ministry of Labour then Oxford Uni. graduate |
24 | Lawford Adela | 13 1 | 16 1 |
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25 | Roberts Gwynedd | 12 3 | 17 2 | First year Modern History Degree at Oxford |
26 | Liddell Helen | 12 3 | 17 2 | To the Air Board then History Mistress in North Foreland School, Broadstairs |
27 | Koskina(s) T. (Thalia?) | 13 2 | 16 2 | Nursing at Queen Alexandra Hosp,. E. Clanden |
28 | Tayler Betty | 11 1 | 18 2 |
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29 | Lambe Audrey | 12 2 | 19 1 | Games Mistress at Harvington Coll. Ealing |
30 | Gervis Maisie | 13 3 | 18 3 | Madame Vandyck. School of Dancing |
31 | Koskina(s) A. | 13 2 | 17 2 |
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32 | Ponsonby M. | 12 2 | 15 3 |
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33 | Stack M.( Peggy P,) | 12 2 | 20 3 | Brighton School of Drawing |
34 | Conradi E. | 12 2 | 13 2 | To make home with her family in U.S. |
35 | Tayler Chris | 12 3 |
| Still present 20 3 |
36 | Dutton Joyce B. | 13 3 | 14 2 | Domestic Economy course at Manchester Uni |
37 | Knight Elizabeth | 13 3 | 17 2 |
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38 | Kellock Hilary | 14 1 | 15 3 |
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39 | Vickers A. | 13 3 | 16 2 | Royal College of Music then Music Mistress at High Wycombe School |
40 | Leaf Betty | 13 3 |
| On 14 2 SL but not on 15 2 school list - Seaford |
41 | Godfrey-Faussett Joy | 14 2 | 17 2 | Working at the Ministry of Labour |
42 | Howard E. (also initial B for Betty) | 13 3 | 15 2 | Collector of Album photographs |
43 | Lawford A. (shown twice?) | 13 1 | 16 1 | Duplicate entry |
44 | Synge Dinah | 13 3 | 18 2 | History Mistress St. Felix School Southwold Link: https://www.sussexexpress.co.uk/news/public-spirited-woman-who-left-the-town-a-lasting-gift-1291932 |
45 | Milligan M. | 14 2 |
| Not on 15 2 school list |
46 | Hazell Betty | 14 2 | 19 2 |
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47 | Kirkaldy-Willis Jean | 14 2 | 14 2 |
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48 | Morgan J. | 14 2 | 17 1 |
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49 | Synge Winifred | 13 3 | 20 2 |
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50 | Jack Elizabeth (Betty) | 14 1 | 16 1 |
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51 | Douglas M. | 13 3 |
| On 14 2 SL but not on 15 2 school list |
52 | Manners-Sutton C. | 14 2 |
| Not on 15 2 school list Berghapton, Seaford |
53 | Barton Barbara | 14 2 |
| Still present 19 2 |
54 | Synge Peggy | 14 2 | 19 3 |
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55 | Gunning E. | 14 2 | 14 2 |
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56 | Gunning L. | 14 2 | 14 2 |
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57 | Currie Z. | 14 2 |
| Not on 15 2 school list |
58 | Varden J. | 14 2 |
| Not on 15 2 school list |
59 | Windham Alba | 14 1 | 17 2 | President of Committee for Undergraduates |
60 | Vickers D. | 13 3 | 18 2 | Music Mistress at Wycombe High School |
61 | McAlpin Molly | 14 3 | 16 2 | Training as kindergarten teacher |
62 | McAfee Margaret | 15 1 | 18 2 | Oxford - obtained degree 1922 |
63 | Chard N. | 15 2 | 16 2 | Working at the War Office |
64 | Southam Betty | 15 1 | 18 2 |
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65 | Edmonds K. | 15 1 | 19 2 |
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66 | Livingstone L. | 14 3 | 16 1 |
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67 | Knapp Margo | 14 3 |
| Still present 19 2 |
68 | Hurst Barbara | 15 1 |
| Not on 17 2 list |
69 | McAfee Joan | 15 2 | 22 2 |
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70 | Synge M. (Peggy i.e. P.) | 14 2 | 19 3 | duplicate record (see 54) |
71 | Gervis Lorna or Laura | 14 3 |
| Still present 20 2 |
72 | Bradshaw Ruby | 14 3 | 18 2 |
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| On 1912 List (not 1913) |
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73 | Anson Gertrude | 10 2 | 12 3 | Study music in Bonn and Manchester – war YMCA Hut |
74 | Salter H. | 08 3 | 12 3 | Figure drawing at studio – war Red Cross Hospital |
75 | Johnston E. | 11 2 | 13 1 | Went to Germany and then to Italy |
76 | Elliot D. | 12 3 | 12 3 |
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77 | Elliot M. | 12 3 | 12 3 |
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Teachers at Downs School for Young Ladies – 1910 to 1920
Key: Start/Left dates -Year & Term
Name | Subject | Start | Left | Additional Information |
Kirkness |
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Tunnicliffe A. C. | Latin & History | 10 1 | 11 2 | Earsheaton, Dewsbury |
Thomson | III Form Mistress | 10 1 |
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Pagny | Music & French | 09 3 |
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Sherlock |
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| 10 2 | Caterham Valley, Surrey (Mrs Layton) |
Packer Evelyn Lucy |
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| Woodbridge, Suffolk (Mrs Cook) |
Young Amy Mary |
| 10 3 | 11 2 | Temp from Sept 09 to Head of St. Margaret’s East Grinstead |
Radford |
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Brunton Cicely |
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| Wellington, Salop. ((Mrs Allcock) |
Corbett |
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| 13 2 | Upper Parkston, Dorset |
Bull |
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| 10 2 | Chorlton-cum-Hardy, Manchester |
Milward |
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Hurry Maria E. | P.E. |
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| Highcliffe-on-Sea, Hants. Then Combe Down, Bath |
Wild |
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| ( played piano) Clarence Gate, London N.W. the Baker Street, London |
Robinson Lucy | Headteacher |
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| Paragon Parade, Cheltenham |
Butler |
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| L.M. School Bangalore City, India |
Schmoutziguer |
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| Wageningen, Holland – Died in 1918 |
Starling |
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| West End Lane, Hampstead N.W. |
Birkett (H.B.F.) Beatrice Mary |
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| Lauderdale Mansions, Maida Vale W. then Montreal, Canada |
Burmester |
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| Went to her sister in Dresden |
Tunnicliffe |
| 11 2 |
| Sister of C. Tunnicliffe |
Huggard | German & French | 11 2 |
| Barnsley Yorks. |
Hennuin | French | 11 2 | 13 2 | Rue Gambetta , Lille, France |
French |
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| (played violin) Wallington, Surrey |
Cameron Lucretia M. | History /Headteacher | 13 2 |
| Underwood, Horeham Road, Sussex |
Hawkins |
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| 13 2 | Swainshill, Hereford |
Ogilvie |
| 13 2 |
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Thinon de la Troche | French | 13 2 | 21 2 | St. Aubin, Eure, France |
Hughes Mira Kathleen |
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| Onslow Gardens, Kensington – Died on the 21st August 1918, daughter Sir & Lady Hughes of Wexford, Ireland |
Hobbs I. D. |
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| 16 2 | To do munitions work |
Langley |
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| 16 3 | Bedford the Dunedin, New Zealand |
Stegall Katherine E. |
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| 17 1 | (became Mrs Connor in 1920) |
Croft |
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| The Cottage,, Lowdham, Notts. |
Humphreys |
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| 16 3 | Bangor, Wales |
Fletcher |
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Whitely |
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| 16 2 |
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Tretheway |
| 16 3 | 17 3 |
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Hendry M.M. |
| 16 3 | 17 3 | Seymour Street W. - To train women of Q.M.A.A.C.T. |
Martland |
| 16 3 | 17 2 |
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Connold | Mathematics | 17 1 | 18 2 | Stoke-by-Clare, Suffolk - To France helping Miss Hookey |
Compton |
| 17 1 | 17 3 |
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Stuart Cox as Matron |
| 17 2 | 17 3 |
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Pitt V,J, | Games Mistress | 18 3 |
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Rutty | Mathematics | 18 3 |
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Kemp | Dom’tic Science |
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King | House/Form Mistress Bydown | 18 2 | 19 2 |
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Hookey | Science | 17 3 | 17 3 | Left to Y.M.C.A. Hut work in France |
Box | Classics | 18 1 |
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Moffatt | Matron | 18 1 |
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Note: This list is likely to be incomplete and the dates are approximate as they were obtained by scanning through the bound magazines. They will be updated at a later date.
The references to teachers tended to be "Miss" plus surname without an initial or a given name.
Other, later, photographs of life at the school from the files of Seaford Museum:
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School Gymnasium |
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Girls exercising outdoors |
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Cricket Match |
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Hall and Stage - Downs Schools Seaford |
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Girls studying under canvas - the tent was pitched each summer |
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Girls in Workshop |
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Horse Riding |
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Horse Riders - Closeup |
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Downs School Building form Sutton Road |
Links:
Also http://greatwartales.home.blog/ which is about four soldiers who trained in Seaford and Eastbourne during WW1.
And https://lamberecipes.blogspot.com/ being a list of some 200 Georgian, Victorian and Edwardian recipes and Remedies by the Lambe family of East Blatchington.
Also https://sussexbirds.blogspot.com/ detailing the birds found in the Seaford area in the middle of the 19th century.
And research into a stereo image by Seaford photographer Mark Wynter of a shipwreck at Seaford Head. Link: https://seafordcliffswreck.blogspot.com/
Also https://blatchingtonbarracks.blogspot.com/ which includes the story of the 1795 riots and executions and also the story of the 'forming' of the Rifle Brigade in Blatchington near Seaford.
Seaford Museum is run entirely by volunteers and is funded by its members and day visitors. Please take a look using the following link: http://www.seafordmuseum.co.uk/
Many thanks for reading this blog.
Ben Franks
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